Featured myHitOnline member Toby Gad’s songwriting and production credits include superstar
artists such as Fergie (from the
Black Eyed Peas),
Ricky Martin,
Enrique Iglesias,
Miley Cyrus (Hannah Montana),
Keke Palmer,
Fatty Koo,
Jaci Velasquez,
Kaci Brown,
The Veronicas and many
more. Toby tells us about how and why he needs nothing more than a
hotel room to record entire albums!
When did you discover your love for music?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: My parents were Jazz musicians and had their own Jazz band. They
rehearsed in our living room and at a very early age I was
exposed to all these great songs. Even while I was still in the
womb! I was seven years old when my brother and I used the
intermission between my parent’s sets to perform our own little
sets.
3 years later, Gunther Mende discovered and offered us our
first recording contract. While it was certainly tempting to
pursue that route, my dad didn’t think it was the right choice
and instead we decided it was best to stay in school.
Nevertheless, we continued to compose music and play in all
sorts of bands and by the age of 16, we managed to have our
first record release with German artist Peter Schilling.
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How did you get involved with producing and songwriting?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: Actually by sheer coincidence. When I was 15, my brother and I
were planning to work with a successful producer in Germany to
record our songs at his home.
He owned a “state-of-the-art”
studio (back then, we still had 24 track tapes!) in his
basement. But scheduling turned out to be quite tricky as he was
travelling a lot and as a result the studio was empty.
We didn’t think twice about whether we should record some songs
ourselves. My brother was the lead singer in the band and I
decided to helm the production.
We didn’t have any engineers
around that could help us, so we had to do it all ourselves.
This turned out to be the foundation for my production work.
When did you experience your first big success with your
music?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: After German music producer Frank Farian assembled “Milli
Vanilli” from session musicians, fronted by two good-looking
dancers, the group landed the breakout hit “Girl You Know It’s
True”.
The song blew up
and peaked and remained at #1 for several months in the German
charts. It also gathered an international following and
Coca-Cola stepped in to invest in promoting the entire album.
Suddenly Frank was faced with completing the entire album in a
really short time.
So we submitted our songs to Frank. One week
later we flew up to his studio, recorded and mixed the rest of
the album. Another week later the record was #1 in the charts. I
never saw this happen so fast again. That was my first big
success in the music business.
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What happened after Milli Vanilli?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: I diversified my efforts and tried my hand in different areas.
From the success of Milli Vanilli, my brother Jens (who also
produced Enigma, Andru Donalds, Sandra, and Milli Vanilli) and I
made enough money to live comfortably for a couple of years.
During that time, we made a solo record with our group and
toured a little bit. I also started to produce and record albums with my
then-girlfriend
who was a new artist at the time.
Shortly thereafter I ventured into scoring music for TV, movies
and advertising projects. My career started to take off in that
field (I did around 20 different projects at that time), but I
noticed that it wasn’t something I was completely happy with.
I felt I’d rather spend a week composing a 3-minute song than making 2
hours of music that accompanies a movie. If it was a film for
TV, it would only air once and I felt that the music was simply
“buried” in the movie. I obviously still place music in film and TV, but I prefer it to
start out as a song meant to be listened to as a song, rather
than just background music in a movie.
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Are you with a publishing company or do you publish your own
music?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: I worked with
Sony ATV for five years and now I am in my third year with
Cherry Lane
Music - one of the biggest independent publishers in the
USA. Among others, they publish
Elvis Presley,
John Legend,
and the Black Eyed Peas. In fact, I worked with Fergie from
the Black Eyed Peas, who has premiered my song “Big Girls
Don’t Cry” (the song became Ferguson's first worldwide #1
single, and is her most successful single to date) on
American
Idol a few weeks ago, which is the fourth single from her
album. The song has spent nine weeks at #1 in America, and as if
things couldn't get any better, Sean Kingston (J.R.
Rotem - Britney Spears, Rihanna)
just re-recorded the song as a duett with Fergie in a Jamaican
remix version.
How do you go about placing songs?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: This is what my publishers Cherry Lane and my managers do. Three
years ago I signed a contract with David Sonenberg and he has
been very helpful. He has a company with over a dozen employees
from tour managers to manager,
song pitchers to legal and all kinds of people who work together - it’s
more like three record labels combined. It’s a very good
collaboration as he can also pitch songs to the artists that he
manages.
I have a second studio in the Eleventh Store with 5 interns, two of which pitch my songs internationally
(including digitally). It’s a great way for that intern to get credits,
and secure a job in the music publishing industry. For any given
pitch my intern will send out 3 to 5 songs, no more than 5. Then
after two weeks you usually know if the song has been picked.
What are you currently working on?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: I am finishing up on the second album for Kaci Brown right now
which is another exciting project for me (Toby already produced
the first album featuring the hit single “Instigator”. You can
check out a recent writing session with Kaci
here).
With “The Veronicas” we sold half a million in Australia and and we are starting with the second album. In
fact, I am flying over to L.A. this week to continue with them in a few
days.
I'm also starting the second album with Broadway star
Elisabeth Withers of “The
Color Purple”. Oprah Winfrey is involved and the first 2
singles on our first album went Top 10 on many urban AC radio
stations in the south.
Of course, there are many other projects coming up.
Do you have any recent highlights from up-and-coming artists
you’ve worked with?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: One of my highlights of last year was Keke Palmer - she is going
to be huge. I did the last 11 songs with her, which she followed
up with 2 more with
Babyface and 1 with Rodney Jerkins before wrapping up the album. She’s 13 years old
now and she just won best actress at the
NAACP
Awards.
At that age, I have never experienced a talent like that. Keke
absolutely blew me away. I have also worked with Mylie Cyrus and
she is equally talented.
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When working with up-and-coming artists such as Keke Palmer
or Mylie Cyrus or even established artists what should a new
producer know when sitting down in the studio with them?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: The biggest mistake is not to listen to the artists. For
example, when I worked with Keke, even
though she is 13, I let her direct the sessions, I come in with
ideas, but then I let her decide what she wants to do.
I write the lyrics with her, but I let her sing the song how she
wants to sing it. I only help the artists to make their record,
so the record will sound the way the artist wants it.
A big mistake is when a producer comes in with a finished song
and tells the artist how to sing it.
To put it another way, writing music is like therapy. My mother,
who is actually a psychotherapist, pointed this out to me. By
listening to the artists and finding out their problems or
thoughts, you need to believe that the music can ease their
problems. Then once the song is written they will feel better
and think that “Wow! This song has helped me”.
In turn, the artist will love the song and someone else will be
able to feel its healing power. I firmly believe that music
needs to be personal - about the life of the artist and the
songs on the album need to reflect that.
Are there any artists or producers you would like to work
with?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: In terms of artists, I’d like to work with
Gwen
Stefani. I think she’s such a great artist and a very sweet
person.
In terms of producers, I haven’t had much luck collaborating
with other producers, because it’s almost like two magnets
working against each other.
I co-wrote with a lot of other writers during my first 3 or 4
years in America. Sony ATV set me up with more than a 100
different co-writers and I have written probably 600 songs over
6 or 7 years.
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I learned a lot during these collaborations, but I also noticed
that placing songs that you write with another writer is much
more difficult than placing songs you’ve written with and
specifically for the artist.
Naturally, if you get to work with an artist directly, the song
will have more of a signature from the artist and the artist is
already married to the song. So you don’t have to pitch it
anymore.
What do you do differently than other producers?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: Lately I’ve been recording a lot in hotel rooms!
I recorded three of The Veronica’s songs on their album in
Sydney in a hotel room. And with Kaci Brown, I recorded the
entire first album in her living room on a laptop. So studios
are losing out. I’m not using big studios any more.
I have my two studios in Manhattan, New York which I use to mix
the songs. But I am doing most of the recording and the
producing in hotels rooms on the laptop. I’ve come back from
England and done a few songs with
Pixie
(Island Def Jam artist) in her living room. And
next week I’m going to L.A. with The Veronicas and I’m going to
record in their living room again.
When I first discovered I could do that it was like a
breakthrough – a revelation! You can do your entire production
on a laptop if you know your set-up well!
You’ve spent a large part of your life in Germany, do you see
any differences between the US and Europe?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: I have spent 30 years of my life in Germany and then decided to
move to the US. I now live in New York and I just love
discovering America.
I love that here music is constantly re-inventing itself. It’s a
constant challenge and people are open for the next big (new!)
thing, whereas in Europe I find it’s not as fast pace.
What trends do you see in the music industry, what will
happen in your opinion?
Grammy-nominated Record Producer Toby Gad: I think it is pretty exciting that there is a new outlet for
artists on the Internet on sites like mySpace. Artists can now sell
and promote their own records. I think this is very
healthy in the grand scheme of things for the music industry.
When CDs replaced the vinyl records there was the promise from
the record labels that as soon as the technology is cheaper they
would cut the price in half but they never did. So they made
tremendous profits on the CDs. And there were times when the
manufacturing of CDs cost less than a dollar and they would sell
for $17 or $18. Now, I think record labels are struggling to
stay profitable, but it’s like a cleansing process. The music
industry has to constantly reinvent itself to survive.
I think listening to music on mobile phones is going to be a big
part of the future. I think very soon mobile phones and iPods will
be the main device for kids to listen to music.
About Toby Gad
Toby Gad’s songwriting and production credits include superstar
artists such Fergie (from the Black Eyed Peas), Ricky Martin,
Enrique Iglesias, Miley Cyrus (Hannah Montana), Keke Palmer,
Fatty Koo, Jaci Velasquez, Kaci Brown, The Veronicas and many
more. You can listen to many of his records and watch videoclips
at
www.tobygad.com. You can also watch "behindTheScenes"
footage at
www.gadfilms.com.
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